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- Archive-name: bodyart/netiquette
- Last-modified: January 27, 1995
- Posting-frequency: Semi-monthly
-
- --==*-< >-*==--
-
- Welcome to rec.arts.bodyart! We're glad you're here! Please take
- a moment to read this file, as it will help you (and other r.a.b.
- readers) understand the standard etiquette (netiquette) for this
- newsgroup. This file is posted twice a month.
-
- This FAQ, as well as the Tattoo FAQs and Alternative Bodyart FAQ
- are all formatted to be html-friendly. That means that most news
- readers will allow you to jump to the next subject by pressing ^G
- (control-g).
-
- Information provided in this file:
- o What is rec.arts.bodyart?
- o What's new in the FAQs?
- o What types of readers do we have on rec.arts.bodyart?
- o How popular is rec.arts.bodyart?
- o Is there a mailing list, archive site or listserv for this
- group?
- o Where can I get the FAQs?
- o Netiquette on rec.arts.bodyart
- o How to title your message
- o Acronyms and vocabulary
- o Trimming postings to save on bandwidth
- o Related newsgroups
- o Delurking (or "coming out of the cpu")
- o Posting binary files on r.a.b.
- o Posting anonymously on r.a.b.
- o Minors accessing r.a.b.
- -- A word of caution to minors
- -- Advice for concerned parents
- -- Suggestions for working with disapproving parents
- o Getting advice from r.a.b.
- o Advertising on r.a.b.
- o Tootin' our own horn
- o A brief history of r.a.b.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: WHAT IS REC.ARTS.BODYART?
-
- Rec.arts.bodyart (r.a.b.) is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup for
- discussing "bodyart." Bodyart here refers to tattoos, body
- pierces, brandings (on humans; not on animals) and cuttings,
- although other modifications that involve some *permanent* form
- of body alteration for decorative purposes also qualify. While
- temporary tattoos and standard jewelry may be discussed here,
- they would be discussed in the context of permanent bodyart.
-
- Most importantly, r.a.b. offers a community and sense of
- belonging for those interested in bodyart. There are many
- regulars on r.a.b. who, through their personalities, serve as
- jester, shaman, den mother, baby, etc. etc. Most of all, those on
- r.a.b. are living, breathing, ALIVE people who love to celebrate
- their bodies through decoration. Welcome!
-
- What makes r.a.b. unique, IMHO, is that it allows lay people to
- learn and discuss the topic of bodyart. While there are some
- readers who are professionals or shop apprentices, this is one of
- the very few open forums in the world where bodyart enthusiasts
- can speak openly about the subject. There are *NO* commercial
- interests or ulterior motives in r.a.b.
-
- If you would like to discuss bodypainting, please post to
- alt.sex.fetish.fashion. The exception to this is the discussion
- about henna, which stays on your skin for a long time.
-
- It is STRONGLY recommended to read the various FAQs prior to
- posting a query. Your question may already be in the FAQ--in
- which case you look like a novice just asking it again.Both the
- tattoo and piercing FAQs carry a list of (recommended) shops in
- different geographical areas. Check to see if your area is
- represented.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: WHAT'S NEW IN THE FAQ?
-
-
- Upcoming tattoo convention list in the Tattoo FAQ updated. If you
- hear of a tattoo convention not on this list, please email me.
-
- A review of Leo Zulueta out of Los Angeles (in the artist list).
-
- The inaugural Lydia Awards recipients list (in this file).
-
- I will also be including a new section in the Alternative Bodyart
- FAQ about henna, hair coloring, and other types of temporary
- bodyart. While this does not fall under the charter of the group,
- queries regarding these topics crop up often enough that they
- should at least be addressed in the FAQ. I will continue
- including these in the FAQ until there someone directs me to a
- more appropriate newsgroup in which to discuss this. Please note
- that discussions about body painting should *still* be directed
- to alt.sex.fetish.fashion.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: WHAT TYPES OF READERS DO WE HAVE ON REC.ARTS.BODYART?
-
- The majority of r.a.b.ers are related to university institutions,
- or to computer jobs or companies. This means that most of its
- readers do not fall under the standard old-fashioned stereotypes.
- There are very few "bikers" or "convicts," for example. Many of
- the readers are either in college or have already obtained their
- degrees. Many are white-collar professionals, including
- librarians (such as myself).
-
- While the r.a.b. reader may not represent the general bodyart
- population, it just shows that the old biases against tattooed or
- pierced people no longer really hold true. The next time you have
- your computer upgraded or check out a book, see if you can see a
- tattoo or nipple pierce under the person's starched white shirt.
-
- There are, however, some groups associated with certain types of
- bodyart. Some pierces (nose, cartilage) may be common among the
- younger "grunge" set. Navel pierces are the height of hip for the
- trendies. Cuttings have been popular among lesbians, while body
- piercing has been popular with the gay/les/bi population. For
- this reason, r.a.b. is *very* GLB-friendly.
-
- It is impossible to determine the average age of our readership.
- We do have some minors, while many are in college. However, there
- are quite a few readers who are in their 30s and 40s, and older.
- Basically, age is a non-issue on r.a.b. The fact that our traffic
- decreases significantly in the summers means that we probably
- have many students.
-
- As far as I am aware, there is currently no known professional
- tattoo artist (read: Works full-time and makes a living
- tattooing) who posts to r.a.b. regularly, although many have
- email access. We also have some tattoo shop apprentices. Remember
- that the purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a forum for the
- general public, and not specifically for artists. From what has
- filtered to me, many tattoo artists *are* aware of r.a.b.'s
- existence (many through the help of r.a.b.bits such as
- yourselves).
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: HOW POPULAR IS REC.ARTS.BODYART?
-
- The following statistics are according to Arbitron, as was posted
- in the news.lists post: USENET Readership report for July 94:
-
- [Arbitron, in this case, is the name of a program generously
- written and run by Brian Reid of Digital Equipment Corporation
- <reid@pa.dec.com>, and has nothing to do with the TV rating
- people.--Allen Leibowitz <leibowa@aa.wl.com>]
-
- Ranked #594 out of #3121 groups.
- Estimated # of people worldwide who read the group: .46,000
- Actual # of readers in sampled population:..............517
- How many sites receive this group at all:................69%
- Recent traffic (messages/month):......................1,107
- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month):................. 2.2
- Crossposting percentage:..................................1%
- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr:................................0.04
- Share: % of newsrders who read this group:................1.0%
-
- New feature: A comparison to other related newsgroups:
-
- +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
- | +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
- | | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
- | | | +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
- | | | | +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
- | | | | | +-- Crossposting percentage
- | | | | | | +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
- | | | | | | | +-- Share: % of newsrders
- | | | | | | | | who read this group.
- V V V V V V V V
- 20 180000 2373 57% 4722 10.9 5% 0.05 4.8% alt.sex.bondage
- 594 46000 517 69% 1107 2.0 1% 0.04 1.0%
- rec.arts.bodyart
- 1294 20000 460 33% 363 2.2 12% 0.05 0.9%
- alt.sex.fetish.fashion
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: IS THERE A MAILING LIST, ARCHIVE SITE OR LISTSERV FOR
- THIS GROUP?
-
- Aside from the FAQs that are archived (see below), there
- currently is no other way to access r.a.b. online. There is no
- bodyart listserv. Most news sites expire their articles after a
- week or two, although some are even shorter than that.
-
- If your site doesn't allow you access to the rec.* usenets, or
- you do not have a full Internet gateway, you will not be able to
- participate in the discussions. If this is the case, we suggest
- you look into private online companies that provide full 'net
- access.
-
- The past year has seen an explosive popularity in [add echo here]
- <<<"The Internet: The Information Superhighway">>>, with major
- carriers such as Delphi, Netcom, America Online, CompuServe and
- Prodigy now offering full Internet gateways. If your site does
- not allow access to r.a.b., you *do* have some options.
-
- You are STRONGLY URGED to become familiar with the Usenet
- environments if you are are new to them.
-
-
- [The following information provided by Andy "Ozric Tentatcles"
- Dwyer.] Those who do not have regular Usenet access may be happy
- to know that there is a Gopher site in the UK that gives access
- to Usenet News articles as gopher menu choices. The number of
- groups available are fairly wide, but the number of current
- articles is not always that great. Still, for those without
- direct Usenet access, it can be a way to read a little of r.a.b.
- or whichever group. The following is the specific info on the
- address, port number and menu level of the Usenet portion of the
- gopher server:
-
- #
- Type=1
- Name=USENET News
- Path=1/Usenet
- Host=gopher.bham.ac.uk
- Port=70
- URL: gopher://gopher.bham.ac.uk:70/11/Usenet
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: WHERE CAN I GET THE FAQS?
-
- This "What is r.a.b." netiquette file is posted semi-monthly
- (twice a month) on rec.arts.bodyart, rec.answers and
- news.answers. The tattoo FAQs, alternative bodyart FAQ and body
- piercing FAQs are posted monthly in r.a.b., news.answers and
- rec.answers. If your system doesn't retain posts in r.a.b., check
- in news.answers or rec.answers.
-
- If you are reading a printed copy of this, or are reading this in
- any format other than in the original posted in rec.arts.bodyart,
- news.answers or rec.answers, this may not be the most recent
- copy.
-
- Anne "Ardvark" Greenblatt (ardvark@holonet.net)'s body piercing
- FAQs have now been approved for distribution through
- news.answers--this means that you will now be able to retrieve
- them using the following methods as well.
-
- The FAQs of the rec.arts.bodyart that are retrievable, and the
- information provided in each:
-
- o Welcome & Netiquette FAQ
- o Tattoo FAQ 1/9--Introduction
- o Tattoo FAQ 2/9--Getting a tattoo
- o Tattoo FAQ 3/9--Sanitation
- o Tattoo FAQ 4/9--Conventions
- o Tattoo FAQ 5/9--Artist list
- o Tattoo FAQ 6/9--Care of new tattoos
- o Tattoo FAQ 7/9--General care/removal
- o Tattoo FAQ 8/9--Misc. info
- o Tattoo FAQ 9/9--Bibliography
- o Alternative bodyart FAQ
-
- The following, also available from rtfm.mit.edu, are maintained
- by Anne "Ardvark" Greenblatt.:
-
- o Piercing FAQ 1--Introduction
- o Piercing FAQ 2--Piercings & Jewelry
- o Piercing FAQ 3--Getting a new pierce
- o Piercing FAQ 4--Professional Piercers
- o Piercing FAQ 5--Care of a new pierce
- o Piercing FAQ 6--Problems and hazards
- o Piercing FAQ 7--Healed pierces
- o Piercing FAQ 8--Misc. info
- o Piercing FAQ 9--Resource List
-
-
- You can retrieve a copy of all FAQs via anonymous ftp from the
- MIT FTP server:
-
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/bodyart
-
- The monthly postings now have an expiration date on them that
- last a month; we hope your sysops will honor these dates and keep
- them in your system for the entire length, until it is replaced
- by the next month's posting.
-
- If "ftp" sounds like alphabet soup and it doesn't mean anything
- to you, there is another way to retrieve the files. Simply send
- an email message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, subject ignored,
- with the body of your message saying any or all of the following:
-
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/netiquette
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part2
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part3
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part4
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part5
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part6
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part7
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part8
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/tattoo-faq/part9
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/alternative-faq
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part2
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part3
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part4
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part5
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part6
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part7
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part8
- send usenet/news.answers/bodyart/piercing-faq/part9
-
- The FAQ files are also accessible over World Wide Web at
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/text/faq/usenet/bodyart/top.html
-
- This web archive, maintained by Thomas Fine (fine@cis.ohio-
- state.edu), won "the Best of the Net" award from O'Reilly and
- Associates. His software updates the archive on a daily basis, so
- you can be assured that the latest version of my FAQs will be
- available there.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: NETIQUETTE ON REC.ARTS.BODYART
-
- If you are new to usenet newsgroups in general, read
- news.announce.newusers for proper net behavior, or "netiquette"
- before you consider posting at all. Rec.arts.bodyart is generally
- "flame-free" and most "flames" tend to be aimed to specific
- people (usually r.a.b. regulars) and are more humorous in nature.
- Hate-ridden or ignorant "everyone with tattoos or body pierces
- will burn in hell" types of posts should be ignored. NEVER FORGET
- THE POWER OF SARCASM AND IRONY. These don't translate well in
- this bland world of ascii text--*many* things are said tongue-in-
- cheek.
-
- Be prepared to get some nasty email if you:
- -Post an empty message because you don't know what you're
- doing.
- -Post the same message more than once because you don't know
- what you're doing.
- -Do not provide the basic quotes you are responding to (an easy
- error to make using the software from America Online).
- -Post a message in all caps (because caps are usually reserved
- for use with acronyms and for emphasis, when you post with the
- CAPS LOCK key on, it looks like you're screaming).
- -Post a "classified ad" to pick up other people.
- -Post a question that is already answered in the FAQ
- (frequently asked questions) files.
- -Post private email to somebody over the entire newsgroup.
- -Flame someone else on r.a.b. without knowing who the other
- person is (e.g., there may be an inside joke you're not
- familiar with yet).
- -Post something nasty about somebody else who posted on r.a.b.
- (when private email would do just fine)
-
- Be prepared to be heavily flamed if you:
- -Post a commercial message from an .edu address (this violates
- some cardinal Internet rules so this isn't just with r.a.b.).
- -Post a commercial message that has very little relevance to
- r.a.b.
- -Post messages that contain various "isms" (i.e. sexism,
- racism, homophobism, religinism, and otherisms.) because of
- ignorance, stupidity, or malice. Roasted flamebait tastes the
- same regardless of purpose.
-
- There is a lot more useful information available on the usenet
- network which is not contained in this FAQ that are available in
- the news.announce.newusers newsgroup.
-
- If you have not already done so, you are strongly encouraged to
- read these postings before posting any messages. In particular,
- the following postings in news.announce.newusers are especially
- useful for new users:
- A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
- Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
- Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette
- Hints on writing style for Usenet
- Rules for posting to Usenet
- What is Usenet?
-
- If you cannot find these topics in the newsgroup, you can get
- copies of them via email by sending a message to
- mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing any or all of:
- send usenet/news.answers/usenet-primer/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/usenet-faq/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/emily-postnews/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/usenet-writing-style/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/posting-rules/part1
- send usenet/news.answers/what-is-usenet/part1
-
- Other good sources of information on the USENET network are the
- newsgroups news.newusers.questions (be sure to read its weekly
- FAQ before posting a question yourself), and
- news.newusers.announce. Also, news.answers contains most of the
- FAQ's posted to each newsgroup, including the rec.arts.bodyart
- FAQs.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: HOW TO TITLE YOUR MESSAGE
-
- If you want to post a query (instead of replying to one), try to
- be as descriptive as possible in your subject heading. A subject
- like "Tattoos" or "Body pierce" don't help readers, since r.a.b.
- *is* mostly about tattoos and body pierces. A better heading
- might be something like "Need a piercer in Atlanta, Georgia" or
- "Infection with eyebrow pierce--help!"
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: ACRONYMS AND VOCABULARY
-
- People save bandwith by using acronyms for oft-used phrases.
- There are some terms you may encounter on r.a.b. that you may not
- see in the "real" world.
-
- :) The colon and close-parenthesis characters are used
- to show a smile (tilt your head to the left and read
- sideways. Other smileys include ;) :-) 8-)
- AFAIK: As far as I know
- BH: Butt-Head or Better Half
- BTW: By the way
- FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions. Most newsgroups have FAQ
- files to help lessen the amount of traffic.
- FWIW: For What It's Worth
- FYI: For Your Information
- ga: Short for "gauge", measurement of the thickness of
- jewelry.
- IDTS: I Don't Think So
- IMHO: In my humble opinion
- IMNSHO: In My Not So Humble Opinion
- JTYLTK: Just thought you'd like to know
- JTYMLTK: Just thought you might like to know
- MOTOS: Members of the opposite sex, as in soc.motos
- MOTSS: Members of the same sex, as in soc.motss
- Ob: Short for "obligatory." A person who posts something
- remotely related to a newsgroup topic may add "Ob..."
- at the end of their post so they put in an obligatory
- word about the pertinent subject.
- OTF: On The Floor
- OTFL: On The Floor Laughing
- OTOH: On the one hand; or, on the other hand.
- PA: Prince Albert. A pierce through the urethra of a penis.
- For more info on PAs, please refer to the body piercing
- FAQ. There are many terms specifically regarding body
- pierces but this one seems to come up most often.
- ROTFL: Rolling On The Floor Laughing
- RTFFAQ: Read the *friendly* FAQ.
- SO: Significant Other
- SSS: Stainless surgical steel. One of the more inert metals
- used for body pierce jewelry.
- TAFN: That's All For Now
- TTFN: Ta-Ta For Now
- TTYL: Talk To You Later
- YMMV: Your mileage may vary.
- Celtic: A style of tattooing that incorporates the delicate
- knotwork designs of the Celts (pronounced with a hard
- "K" and not a soft "S" as in the basketball team).
- Conch: The "bowl" of your ear.
- Flash: Tattoo designs that you find stapled to the walls of
- tattoo studios. The opposite of this would be a custom
- design you bring in on your own.
- Gun: Either a tattoo gun (modern tattooing machine) or
- piercing gun. In r.a.b., tatoo guns are good, piercing
- guns are B-A-D and are used only for earlobes.
- Lurk: Lurking. Reader of r.a.b. who doesn't post. The act of
- "delurking" involves a reader who posts for the first
- time, or once in a great while.
- Niobium: A type of metal that is "electrified" to produce any
- number/combination of rainbow hues. Also an inert metal
- used for body pierce jewelry.
- Septum: The tissue between your nostrils. Site of a pierce.
- Squick: Verb: To gross out, feel revulsion. Alt.sex.bondage has
- been cited as its origin, and comes from the sound made
- when one copulates with the space between the two halves
- of a brain after a hole has been bored into the skull
- (trepanation or trephination).
- Tat: Short for "tattoo"
- Tragus: The knob in the front of your ear. Site of pierces.
- Tribal: A style of tattooing that is sometimes confused with
- Celtic. Sometimes called "blackwork," involves
- geometric primitive designs.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: TRIMMING POSTINGS TO SAVE ON BANDWIDTH
-
- Some people pay for their online time. If you are posting a
- response to another person's posting, try to trim down their
- quote. This gets worse as people quote upon other people's
- quotes, and so on and so forth, until the quotes alone fill up a
- few screens. The reader can go back and read the original posting
- if s/he wants to. Posting a response to someone else's long
- posting, with just a short "I agree entirely!" is a waste of
- bandwidth. Refrain from posting something like this unless you
- have something more to contribute to the discussion. But if you
- MUST, then at least delete the bulk of the quote. Try to indicate
- that you are omitting parts of the post by using the mark of
- ellipses, etc. (i.e. [...], [extraneous stuff deleted], [snip
- snip]).
-
- Please delete other people's signatures. And keep yours to around
- four lines or less; this is standard netiquette.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: RELATED NEWSGROUPS
-
- alt.sex.bondage: The 12th highest rate of readers of ALL groups.
-
- alt.sex.fetish.fashion: Discusses topics including latex, rubber,
- high heels and corsets. Also a discussion site for temporary body
- painting.
-
- soc.bi, alt.sex.motss, and other gender orientation groups.
-
- As a result of these related newsgroups, we get some occasional
- cross-postings. If you are posting a response to such a cross-
- posted message, please make sure to delete cross-posted
- newsgroups should the discussion move to a more specific topic
- belonging in one group.
-
- When posting about an inquiry specific to a geographical area,
- please be aware of your distribution setting. The default for
- many sites is "world." If you want to know about a good artist in
- Arkansas, for example, at least limit your post to "usa."
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: DELURKING (OR "COMING OUT OF THE CPU")
-
- As the statistics indicate, there are apparently tens of
- thousands of readers of r.a.b. (and at least several hundred that
- were actually identified as subscribers). With only an average of
- 40 posts per day (many by the same people), the number of
- "lurkers" who read but don't post, is very high. If you are
- "delurking," you can either announce that you are (in which you
- might get some sort of unofficial welcome from a regular), or
- simply post a message. You don't have to be pierced, inked or
- otherwise poked to participate in r.a.b.
-
- If you wish to congratulate a delurker, *please* delete the
- majority of their file and trim down their quote.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: HOW COME WE CAN'T POST GIFS ON R.A.B.?
-
- I used to have a short answer here, but after having to
- repeatedly defend myself via private email, here is the long of
- it:
-
- o Usenet is *not* the same as the Internet. Many people
- (especially overseas like in the UK and France) do not have
- high-speed feeds. Their telephone services are not only highly
- regulated by the government--it is often *run* by the
- government, which has a tight monopoly on connect rates (read:
- expensive). To keep their online costs low, many have a
- download/upload system where every single article from their
- subscribed newsgroups is downloaded into their disk, which they
- then read offline. Posting GIFs would definitely slow them
- down,
- and cost them more money.
-
- o If you feel that there is sufficient need for a separate place
- for gifs of bodyart, then feel free to start the process for
- the
- creation of one--the guidelines "How to Create A New Newsgroup"
- found in the news.* hierarchy will help you.
-
- o There are already alt.binary.* groups to post bodmod GIFs to.
- If
- *your* site doesn't carry alt.binary.* groups, get an account
- at
- someplace like Nyx. What I mean is that there is already an
- outlet to post bodmod GIFs to other than on r.a.b.
-
- o And if you don't get alt.binary.* groups at your site, have you
- considered why? Before you yell CENSORSHIP, consider that it's
- because there is simply not enough room on your server's disk!
- Using this same logic, what do you think will happen if we
- begin
- posting GIFs to r.a.b.? Your sysadmin might choose to stop
- providing r.a.b. to you!!
-
- Posting GIFs is a sticky topic, in light of copyright issues and
- the recent Tennessee online obscenity case.
-
- If you have a problem with it, please go and read the "What is
- Usenet?" file from news.answers before you send me private flame
- mail. By being noise-less, we have a higher propagation rate to
- more sites--the majority want to keep it that way. (BTW, lack of
- binaries is one of the reasons _Skin Two_ magazine's Andy MacKay
- really likes us.)
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: POSTING ANONYMOUSLY ON R.A.B.
-
- Some people post anonymously to r.a.b. We would like to
- discourage the use of anonymous IDs, as we do not consider
- bodyart to be shameful or embarrassing. However, if you feel that
- the integrity of your personal or professional life would be in
- jeopardy should your participation in r.a.b. become known, then
- by all means remain anonymous. If you choose to post anonymously,
- you will be treated with respect if you are sincere. Those who
- abuse their anon IDs by posting undesired messages are not
- welcome on r.a.b.
-
- Chris "The Scorpion" Stone <cpstone@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu> says:
- Some people have to post through the anon.penet.fi site because
- they are not allowed to post from their home sites (I really
- don't know why some places are like that)... There does exist an
- e-mail-> usenet reflecter at U Texas. Also, some others have
- net.personas from other groups they wish to keep intact (like
- Julian), and they can only post to those other groups through an
- anon account for personal reasons.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: MINORS ACCESSING R.A.B.
-
- While rec.arts.bodyart is not in the alt.sex.* hierarchy, there
- is a need to address this because of the subjects discussed here.
-
- First, note that in most areas (at least in the US), professional
- tattoo artists and body piercers will not allow serve minors.
- However, because there is no national law regarding this, each
- area has its own regulations. I've tried to add information about
- this, but it is still your responsibility to check the laws of
- your area.
-
- In addition, because of the subjects covered in r.a.b., we often
- discuss specific body parts *explicitly* (the majority of body
- pierces are done on the nipples or on the genitalia [of males and
- females]).
-
- The fact that we cannot control who reads r.a.b. makes it
- impossible to monitor which of our readers are minors who aren't
- yet of legal age in their community. In fact, we can't even tell
- who the minors are unless they announce this to the newsgroup.
- Since teenagers will often do what they want to do, regardless of
- what they are told, the general concensus on r.a.b. is that it is
- far better to help minors make an *informed* decision about what
- to do about their bodies (preferably after they turn 18), rather
- than deny information to them.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: A WORD OF CAUTION TO MINORS
-
- Unmoderated Internet usenets are completely open. We cannot
- control who participates. Just as you can participate in r.a.b.,
- so can opportunistic adults who prey on minors. Although the
- numbers are very small, adult pedophiles and child molestors may
- be lurking in newsgroups waiting to develop budding friendships
- with you. Use some common sense in protecting yourself.
- -Do not give away your home phone number or home address.
- -Do not give people personal information that will help
- them track you down.
- -If a person wants to have a get-together with you, meet in a
- public place and do not go alone (The actual advice is "Go
- with your parent," but that's unrealistic for many).
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: ADVICE FOR CONCERNED PARENTS
-
- If you are a parent, please not be alarmed that your child reads
- r.a.b.; it is a good arena in which your child can obtain some
- factual information about a subject not readily available. If you
- do not want your child to have access to r.a.b., please discuss
- this with your child's account system administrator. We cannot
- take responsibility for your child's actions.
-
- Please read the above about some of the dangers of going online.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: SUGGESTIONS FOR WORKING WITH DISAPPROVING PARENTS
-
- If you are a minor interested in getting bodyart, and are living
- at home with your parents (or guardians), the general advice you
- will get from regulars on r.a.b. is as follows:
-
- --If your parents are open to the idea, have them take you to a
- good professional person to do the work.
-
- --If your parents are uncooperative due to lack of information,
- provide them with some articles currently available in the
- mainstream media. Remember--if your parents weren't hippies in
- the '60s or they are somewhat sheltered from today's youth and
- alternative culture, the idea of contemporary tattoos or body
- pierces is a very frightening thought. Just remember that until
- about 15 years ago, the concept of men piercing their ears or
- women getting two sets of pierces in their earlobes was
- considered radical.
-
- --If your parents are against your getting bodyart because they
- think you are going to suffer permanently from a passing fad,
- come up with a compromise with them. Make sure you pay for it
- with your own hard-earned money (not allowance), and wait a while
- (six months). While this may seem like an eternity, it may also
- be long enough to convince your parents that this is a serious
- desire on your part.
-
- --If your parents are dead-set against it, and counter you with
- threats (kicking you out of the house, losing financial support
- for school/college, being disowned, etc.), then the best thing to
- do is to wait until you are at least 18 and out of the house.
- Your parents either think you're too young, or consider bodyart
- so horrible, that doing it anyway (behind their back) will only
- cause more (and serious) problems in your family relationship.
- From those with personal experience on r.a.b., the advice is--
- "it's not worth the grief--just wait a couple more years."
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: GETTING ADVICE FROM R.A.B.
-
- While r.a.b. offers a forum for discussion, many of the posts are
- originated by people who have specific questions. Most on r.a.b.
- are not professional tattooists or piercers; their advice usually
- comes from personal experience or shared information. If you have
- a serious medical concern, you may want to see a medical
- professional. The advantage to posting on r.a.b. regarding a
- medical inquiry is that there are many here who have already gone
- through the same problem, and may be able to suggest a bodyart-
- friendly doctor in your area. Don't forget that professional,
- experienced tattooists and piercers are also good sources for
- queries regarding infections.
-
- If you need to do a school paper on bodyart, your most important
- step is to go to the various libraries in your community. I have
- done numerous bibliographic searches on tattoos and body pierces,
- and have retrieved so many citations from recent media articles
- that I can't even list them in the resources FAQ anymore (they
- number in the thousands). Basic questions about the history of
- tattooing, etc. should be done on your own at the library. Start
- with the major encyclopedias.
-
- Before you post a "survey" to r.a.b. for your class paper, please
- think very carefully about the validity of such a survey. Unless
- you are studying the behavior of bodyart enthusiasts in an
- electronic community, you will be obtaining your data from a very
- skewed population. DEPENDING ON THE THOROUGHNESS OF YOUR DATA,
- YOUR PROFESSOR MAY NOT CONSIDER IT VALID. Remember that regular
- readers of r.a.b. see quite a few surveys posted here--most
- people are pretty jaded because posters don't follow up by
- posting their findings, or make their papers available online via
- email to the survey respondents.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: ADVERTISING ON R.A.B.
-
- Are you interested in selling your products or services to
- readers of rec.arts.bodyart? Before you post your announcement,
- know that there are acceptable alternatives such as ftp (File
- Transfer Protocol), World Wide Web and gopher, where people can
- visit YOU to read what you have to offer. If you choose not to
- follow the proper established ways (and thereby gaining the
- respect of readers), you will be treading on very tricky ground.
-
- In light of recent events in Usenets in general, please read this
- section carefully if you are a business considering making any
- sort of announcements on r.a.b., even if you're "not selling
- anything." Remember that businesses that refuse to follow
- protocol can garner bad reputations online in a matter of
- *hours*.
-
- A. If you have an .edu address, forget it. Don't try to run a
- business on r.a.b. You get your access privileges from an
- educational institution and aren't supposed to be making money
- from your .edu account. Exceptions include if you want to get
- rid of something bodyart-related like your old magazines, or
- you want to announce a special art exhibit on bodyart, etc.
-
- B. While people won't jump down your throat if you post a promo
- from a .com address, make sure it is specific to bodyart. With
- over 6,000 newsgroups, there *will* be a more appropriate one
- to post to if yours is not bodyart specific.
-
- C. While we appreciate your opinions and input as a tattoo artist
- or body piercer, DO NOT POST AN AD FOR YOUR SERVICES HERE. We
- strongly recommend that you put a pointer to your ad in your
- four-line signature. Make your ad or catalog available in your
- .plan or .project file (accessible via a "finger" command by
- others); via Gopher, World Wide Web, anonymous ftp or via
- private email to those who email you for a request.
- NOTE: Shameless referrals to your own business can constitute
- an ad.
-
- D. If you're "offering a service" you think does not constitute
- "selling" something, please use the following checklist:
- __ I would like to make this announcement so more people know
- about the service I'm providing (for a fee).
- __ I plan on spending some time answering people's questions,
- although ultimately, I would suggest a service or product
- I am selling.
- __ My service is so valuable that people will WANT to pay. I
- do
- not want to devalue myself by providing it for free.
- __ I have been providing this same service on [CompuServe,
- America Online, Prodigy] for a long time now, and simply
- want to expand into the Internet, the "info superhwy."
- __ I have only been reading r.a.b. for less than a month.
-
- If you said "yes" to any of these, you are being forewarned
- that you will probably receive very spiteful and ugly email (not
- to mention public posts) about the inappropriateness of your
- behavior. Rec.arts.bodyart is considered "safe space" for its
- readers, and is not a haven for advertising products OR services.
-
- MOST IMPORTANTLY: It is one of the easiest ways for you to earn a
- bad reputation online. And believe me--word spreads *fast*!!
-
- Buyer beware--We are not responsible for the legitimacy of any ad
- posted on r.a.b.
-
- WHAT IF YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE YOUR SERVICES OR PRODUCTS?
-
- There are a number of publications that will help you. In
- general, announcements pointing to other places may be welcomed
- here. These include the announcements of Gopher sites, World Wide
- Web pages, or "send email to this address for a catalog" posts.
- Anything beyond type this of short announcement may be construed
- as the ad itself. Be careful!
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: TOOTIN' OUR OWN HORN
-
- Ever wonder what the rest of the world thinks of us at r.a.b.?
- This section contains a bibliography of publications that have
- cited rec.arts.bodyart. If *you* catch a mention of r.a.b. in
- print that's not mentioned here, please email me at
- "teshima@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu". If it is a publication I can't
- get a hold of, I will request that you mail or fax me a copy.
- Please do not forget to include the entire citation.
-
- --"Fetish On Line", by Andy Mackay, _Skin Two_ magazine, issue
- 15, page 12, [August 1994]; rates r.a.b. as one of the best
- fetish newsgroups. Andy told me:
- "I know r.a.b. isn't one of the 'standard' fetish newsgroups but
- I wanted to include it in the Skin Two article because it's one
- of my favourite newsgroups - it is also (I think) an extremely
- good example of what a newsgroup should be. What r.a.b. does, it
- does really well - good FAQ, v. little rubbish, helpful replies
- to the silliest newbies, no binaries, boy brent etc. etc."
-
-
-
- --_Body Play_; (most recent issue--will get citations) article by
- assistant editor Liz Henry describes r.a.b. as a comfortable
- environment for her in which to learn about bodyart.
-
- --_Wired_ magazine; Netsurf from an issue in December '93
- mentions the r.a.b. Tattoo FAQ, retrievable from rtfm.mit.edu.
-
- --_Digit_ newsletter (University of Colorado at Boulder Computing
- & Network Services), May/June 1994, vol 29, no 3, p 23-24. The
- article, "Lydia, Oh, Lydia: Have you seen Lydia? Lydia, the
- tattood (sic) lady." by Bonnie Burton, UCB student, School of
- Journalism, discusses r.a.b. in-depth, and uses r.a.b. as an
- example for how to read usenets in general.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: A BRIEF HISTORY OF R.A.B.
-
- [To conserving space, I have hacked Chris' original post,
- entitled "Reflections,"--and by doing so, have taken out much of
- the emotional impact it had on me initially.]
-
- "Reflections," from Chris Wayne (cwayne@unm.edu):
-
- RAB is now over three years old--I never thought it would last
- this long. In 1990, I got on a primitives mail-list, which a gay
- friend pointed me toward. I wondered why most on the list seemed
- to be gay (I am straight and a Christian). I wasn't really sure
- what "Modern Primitives" was. While I noticed the ritualistic
- aspects, my interests lay more in the actual art of tattooing
- (not yet piercing). I do have an open mind and being a tattoo
- enthusiast, I guess my friend thought I'd fit in.
-
- I was curious why the GLBs should have all the fun. Why was there
- no primitives newsgroup? Karl [MacRae] said there wasn't one
- because it would probably open people up to unwanted attacks and
- stupidity--but I thought I'd give it a try.
-
- Karl gave me his blessings. In November I called an RFD [Request
- For Discussion] (now a CFD [Call For Discussion]) on creating a
- new group. What came of the few responses was a name
- (rec.arts.bodyart). I wanted it to be apart from the primitives
- mail list, which included all the different permutations--with
- focus on the actual art and not necessarily the ritual, and
- general enough to have a wide appeal still fit into the
- philosophy of Modern Primitivism. I was looking for acceptance
- and education, to teach people that it's OK to accept those that
- are different, and that tattooing is not disgusting. The CFV
- produced a close vote, but in March 1991, RAB was created.
-
- At first, those on the prims list were cautious for fear of
- getting dumped on--but there hasn't been any of this bashing on
- r.a.b. Here's an open forum that doesn't care what your color or
- orientation is, or even if you're not tattooed and can share in a
- common passion on neutral ground and have no fear of being
- bashed. I wanted someplace to hear about all aspects of tattooing
- without having to worry about someone harassing the people. I
- think that this group is a beacon to the rest of the Internet,
- showing that there's nothing sinister or evil in tattooing and
- that criminals, queers and bikers aren't the only ones that get
- tattoos. Being tattooed does not make the person; getting
- tattooed reflects who the person is--good or bad.
-
- Karl, Jeff, Lance, Ray & Barb and many others no longer here,
- migrated over from the prims list and became the local experts.
- They were willing and capable of answering any question. Mostly,
- only those that had tattoos would post questions, but eventually
- as word of this group spread, those that were just curious were
- reading and posting questions. Interest grew. "Where can I get
- tattooed?" "Where can I get pierced?" "What should I look for?"
- "How much will it cost?" And of course "Does it hurt?" The
- Internet was being introduced to Modern Primitives and being
- educated that tattooing is not a fad or trend, but a commitment
- (a conscious decision) for life, the courage to be different--to
- stand out. Then came Lani and Ardvark and their FAQs, which are
- posted on other important, mainstream groups. These FAQs even
- help some people along the three steps of acceptance in getting a
- tattoo :-)
-
- 1) I never want one!
- 2) It looks good on someone else, but I still don't want one.
- 3) I want one!
-
- There isn't a session that goes by that I don't see someone
- asking about getting their first tattoo or where the nearest shop
- is, what questions to ask and what to look for. There are also
- RAB socials, get togethers at conventions, and even a wedding
- invitation! There are discussions on why we get tattooed and how
- a tattooed person is perceived by the public.
-
- People are now getting tattooed because they're getting more
- familiar with this art form, and the fear of an unknown is
- removed. Their inhibitions and preconceptions are being changed.
- People are understanding what it means to be tattooed. I guess
- there are still those that think that getting a tattoo is a fad
- or kewl (cool), but that's their problem. If everybody is getting
- tattooed--that's not the reason to get tattooed. Everybody eats
- and makes love, but that's not the reason we do it. I don't think
- anybody would call sex a fad--I believe that getting tattooed
- fills a basic need.
-
- If you're a lurker out there that still aren't sure about taking
- the 'plunge,' just do it. If you've repressed the urge for years,
- just let go. Plan for it first, but do it. It is an experience
- not soon forgotten. Probably the best thing to do is to get one
- that can easily be covered up, so that you can get used to the
- idea of having a tattoo and you can show it off whenever you
- want. Then you can decide how to go from there. Many people will
- suggest going 'large & bold', but remember, you're the one that
- makes the final say. It's a decision that you will be living with
- for the rest of your life. Hopefully, it won't be the only such
- decision you make for the rest of your life.
-
- Unlike most groups that are for just discussion, RAB is also a
- support group with a sense of community. Truly, one can find
- Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations in this group.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: REC.ARTS.BODYART LYDIA AWARDS
-
- We are very happy and proud to announce that the inaugural r.a.b.
- Lydia Awards were presented in San Diego, on Friday, October 7th
- at Thai Chada Restaurant. The following is the presentation given
- by its founder, the eminent Lance Bailey [zaphod@bcu.ubc.ca].
-
- It occurred to me late one night, while lying awake in bed,
- 'stead of dreaming visions of sugarplums, that something was not
- right in *my* particular corner of the universe. You see, Goddess
- Inga Nation had just recently posted about how she wonderfully
- trashed some poor fool who had told her exactly what they thought
- of her bodyart -- a nose pierce i believe (but don't quote me on
- that). And I'd noticed that boy brent had been tailing off his
- postings with a wonderful, wonderful quote.
-
- So I got to thinking, "The Academy has the Oscars, Broadway has
- the Tonys and the telly has the Emmys. People on r.a.b. should be
- awarded also...but what to call the awards?
-
- WELCOME TO THE FIRST ANNUAL LYDIA AWARDS
- ***<<<Lydia, oh lydia, say have you met lydia...>>>***
-
- I was happy and content--but was this too strange an idea? I
- bounced it off lani who seemed, MILDLY amused (read: pretty darn
- enthusiastic) and we bounced all sorts of ideas and models for
- the awards. The founders awards in particular were her idea.
-
- In the future, there will be an official nomination period and
- voting, but for this first rushed year (1994) the nominating and
- voting committe were combined and reduced down to one -- ME.
-
- So the 1994 awards are as follows:
-
- FOUNDERS AWARD:
-
- o Chris Wayne
- o Karl MacRae
- o Barbara MacRae
- o Jeff Dauber
- o Ray Shea
- Chris Wayne gets special mention for submitting the original
- Call For Votes on the group, while Karl and Jeff get special
- mention for adding to the general grumpiness of the group
-
- BEST HANDLING OF A RUDE COMMENT AWARD:
-
- o Goddess Inga Nation for her question: "Did I go out of my way
- tell you I think your shirt is ugly?"
-
- BEST SIGNATURE QUOTE AWARD:
-
- o boy brent for two of his quotes: "If I follow you home you can
- keep me" and "It's not just a body -- it's an adventure."
-
- YOU OUGHTA BE IN PICTURES AWARD:
-
- o Lani Teshima-Miller for her cover snap on *Best of Skin Art*
- and pictures in Tattoo Expo
-
- MOST LEXIGRAPHICAL TATTOO AWARD:
-
- o Janet Ingraham for her alphabet tattoo. [and much apologies
- for
- forgetting her lydia at home]
-
- WE ANNOYED LYDIA AWARD:
-
- o The law firm of Canter and Seigel for using and abusing the
- Internet to their own advantage.
-
- As I said, next year's will have a nomination period. There will
- be continuing awards, but the executive (ME) reserves the right
- to
- create "loaded" categories to ensure that the awards maintain the
- correct level of silliness.
-
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- -
-
-
- Welcome to the wonderful world of rec.arts.bodyart.
- "Poke around and think ink!"
-
- --==*-<*>-*==--
-
- This ends the "What is rec.arts.bodyart?" file.
-
-
- --
- Lani Teshima-Miller (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu) "Sea Hare" o/ /_/_/
- UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our o|<0_0>------*
- libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant \=^-| |_| |
- nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"] \_B}\_B}
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